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calling all fans y'all

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let's get it

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yeah

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what's going on people welcome back to

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calling all beings on a beautiful rainy

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Thursday night here in FLA also known as

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Florida I'm your host DJ along with the

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dopest of the dope Sans my brother money

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Nathan who had to take care of some what

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I don't think I've ever said that word

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so good evening uh Debs how are you my

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friend

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I'm excited to talk about NASA

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me too man we're gonna uncover some

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stuff we're gonna get inside and guess

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what we're gonna take Darcy all the way

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to Bigfoot baby so don't you worry about

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it uh net and you know I'm actually

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seeing Bigfoot right there Matthew Knapp

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good evening sir good evening sir how

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are you good the legend is in the

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building man what's up yeah what was up

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with that intro man I've never seen that

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one before Oh that was our original one

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and I don't know which I get confused on

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how they're labeled so that was our our

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old one before this the new one was made

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for us by this lovely lady named

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Charlotte the Thunderbird over in

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England who also did Deb's intro and

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Leah if you need help man Charlotte she

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she's done many uh many of these

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um and since we said the word Leah hi

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Prime Time what's up buddy hey hello uh

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TJ every time I hear you welcome me to

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the show I always think man I want to

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grind this up and snort it there's a lot

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going on here love is in all I can think

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about when I think of prime time is Love

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is in the air yeah everywhere I look

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around all right all right now we got to

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get down to the real business man you

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know what I'm saying because uh Matthew

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let me know about this gentleman who he

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had been following uh and said gotta get

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this guy on because he's putting out

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these interesting films about UFOs and I

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look at his filmography go man this dude

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doing some work man you know what I'm

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saying so uh without further ado

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let's get the producer director of

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secret space UFOs Apollo 1-11 on Amazon

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now and secret space UFOs fast walkers

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in a whole bunch of other films so put

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your hands together for Canada's oh Mr

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Darcy win

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woohoo

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there let me let me get that beard right

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up in there in the center Square man

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saying man you rock that man you rock

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that all over town man okay thank you

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do it like that Darcy man you got a lot

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of films brother I got a few yeah been

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busy especially yeah

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yeah and you know I'm I'm gonna you know

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I'm gonna kind of want to go through

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some of the other films because it just

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so happens that we're interested in all

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these genres in which you have produced

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films about but the first thing that

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sort of came to my mind uh when I I saw

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you uh these two films that uh Maria

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sent to us so that we could watch them

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is there's so much work involved in what

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you did and you've done now is is fast

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Walkers out yet or is that yet to

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uh uh uh let me I'd have to bring the

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title up again because I forget these

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things but yeah secret space UFOs fast

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to do that much work about this topic in

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two films what was the drive behind this

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what was it that you saw and felt that

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uh present do two films and do all that

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work on this specific topic

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medium objects right they're supposed to

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unimpeded so to speak and

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deep space and outer space sort of UFO

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lot of it over the years

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there was rumors that UFOs were being

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spotted as early as the very first NASA

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space missions with the X-15 craft

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NASA's first missions and we basically

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missions which you know those were

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considered the bridge to the Moon

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missions they were training astronauts

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to be able to practice Yeah to be in

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space orbiting around Earth and even

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during those missions uh you know Joe

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spacecraft uh Pilots first NASA

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like printed in Life magazine and um

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they later commented when they were

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retired and showed photos and uh I went

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documents that were released uh in 2000

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was it 2021 or 2022 right after Trump

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executive order that all the

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intelligence agencies give their UAP UFO

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information the CIA was actually the

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first to do the dump and I'm pretty sure

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the only intelligence agency to do it so

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I went through that and I saw this

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correspondence

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UFO researchers and NASA and uh they

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just played Hardball and said we don't

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have the footage and stuff and then

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since the beginning whenever you ask for

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footage or pictures that supposedly are

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more of that and I brought in Mike Bara

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Hoagland a lot of these anomalous

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structures that were found during the

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Apollo missions starting from uh Apollo

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when you worked on the Apollo missions

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individuals were collecting these they

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more your motivation was basically that

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this was being hidden is that what your

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that there's a cover-up of multiple

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types of things I guess uh and that

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an idea out there that this stuff is

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of showing and even we were talking

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about the Apollo One mission and how

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NASA's formal PR explanation for how

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those astronauts died in the first

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Apollo capsule was through asphyxiation

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asphyxiation but that's and you know you

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to them what's interesting is people who

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yeah but uh anyway so so we're gonna go

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then we'll just keep doing circles as

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everybody asks their question but before

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we get to that Darcy I want to shout out

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to uh our chat moderator Julie who is

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ill uh back in Alabama and she's

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recovering and uh we love you Jules

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thank you so much for what you do for

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cab we really appreciate you and um and

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Jules is dedicated to you home girl and

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with that I will pass it over to our

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the the uh the famous add a study of

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uap's Deb so I am fascinated by the

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lovely nuggets of information in your

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um and he made this comment that he was

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going to pass along any information with

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his Partners at Nasa if you found

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anything that indicated that the objects

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everyone is seeing internationally are

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extraterrestrial what do you think will

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happen should someone pass that

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information to NASA do you think the

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public will actually get that

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information based on your research

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some form of disclosure I don't think

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Mellon on that podcast that states that

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they have satellite Photography they

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have satellite data probably video two

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as high quality as you can get of these

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so there's probably a treasure Trove of

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that

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but then you know if you look at

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Christopher mellon's article that he

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wrote I think in 2000

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2020

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it was talking about unifying all of our

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listening systems to look at these

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objects and better identify them and

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have a better repository of data right

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so he was talking about

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um

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all of the tracking radar

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um radio telescopes for example that are

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on the earth plus listening systems that

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are in the ocean plus satellites that

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are aimed down at Earth if you unified

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all that you would have really good data

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to to comb through

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um

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and then you listen to

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the recent interview that Bill Nelson

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did the NASA head administrator who was

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an STS space mission astronaut

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um

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he

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research data this June

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and he also thought it was a good idea

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to unify our tracking data of these

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things

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so it seems like we're heading that way

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and the project Galileo uh what

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Avi is trying to do is very similar he

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he wants to sort of unify that stuff

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um

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so I feel like NASA might be

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maybe it might be the organization that

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will

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kind of legitimize this UAP phenomenon

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to the public because they are the

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ultimate in these scientific

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organizations in the public right

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but I do worry that they're not going to

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tell the whole story and it might be

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some kind of PR exercise if you watch

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the documentary

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fast Walkers which is out now I think

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you guys got a copy from yes we do

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um you know I make a case that as early

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as the 1970s when we had the DSP

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missions the defense satellite program

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that these were running

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um Optical baffles that could take

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photos of the earth and things in space

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and they also had infrared

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um

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sensors and they would pick up objects

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that entered our atmosphere or in one

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case a massive object that came and

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parked

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a mile or two away from the DSP system

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revolving around Earth

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um it stopped you know

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and um a famous satellite technician

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also UAP researcher named Ron regier

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Reger who worked on the DSP system

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he extracted a bunch of the DSP reports

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and leaked them to Richard Dolan and

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people that are in the public

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researching UFOs

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and we looked at that

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um which Richard Dolan actually has

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copies of that and it's like years and

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years of fast Walker which is the NORAD

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the Air Force's uh

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code name for deep space UFOs basically

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UFOs that come from space that come to

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Earth and sometimes enter our atmosphere

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and sometimes uh just stay in space and

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then leave

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um

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one of those readings that came from the

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DSP system coincided exactly on the date

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that the famous Mass witness citing of

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the Tehran incident happened

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where uh you know was it a couple f4s

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chased an object that emitted another

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object and landed on the ground and it

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shut down

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they tried to shoot at it but it shut it

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shut down

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um their systems okay so they had to

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basically evade and go away because they

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couldn't even operate their systems and

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scared the heck out of them

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um the American Air Force

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subsequently after that incident flew

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right over to Tehran and was debriefed

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there and said it wasn't ours so whose

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was it right and this came from deep

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space

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so we have satellite systems that we

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started launching in the late 60s the

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DSP satellite system is a relic now

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and if you think about it we have

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probably a treasure Trove with the

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military uh because those are defense

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um that has been picking up UAP or UFO

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um data for decades now decades and and

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I can't imagine what Christopher

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mellon's talking about but it's probably

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off of something that's way newer

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um oh yeah the nro uh with yes okay

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um

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so next question

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I I was gonna say I I thought that the

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fast Walkers were like when they're

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doing a spacewalk and they go to the

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outdoor like ISS ice machine and they're

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going to fill up that little bucket like

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you have like at Motel 6 and then the

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ice just floats away and then someone

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sees and goes man there's a fast Walker

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right there man oh that's all it is

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right a little water snakes right yeah

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uh anyway go for it Matt

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in your uh research and the production

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of your documentaries what's

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a piece of evidence or testimony that

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has impacted you the most that you think

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um well from my most recent one of my

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most recent documentaries James uh Fox's

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testimony about being ghosted by Buzz

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Aldrin

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yeah I think that was pretty important

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um that shows that you know astronauts

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possibly do see these things

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throughout

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the decades and

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they're instructed not to talk about it

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and there's like this

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secrecy that must be kept with regards

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to UFOs uh obviously you have guys like

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Dr Edgar Mitchell who is the Apollo 14

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astronaut that was quite vocal about UAP

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UFOs but uh Buzz Aldrin was not and uh

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he in fact kind of teased James Fox

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whenever he called hey are you willing

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to

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come clean about the UFO incident you

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had on the way to the moon during Apollo

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11 and he apparently also had a

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earth-based uh UFO

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incident where he chased one

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um I think it was like in a c33 or

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something like that

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um

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he didn't want to talk about it so you

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would just say well why don't you just

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call your buddy Edgar you know uh yeah

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so I think I don't think James is a liar

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and he's a friend of mine he told me

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that

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this story I'd heard through the

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grapevine and I wanted to get on camera

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and this Apollo 1-11 dock because it you

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know puts a cap on

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you know years after Apollo 11

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you have

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UFO is becoming pretty popular in the

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90s and the thousands right and Larry

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King live

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was a hotbed for debate on UFOs

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and he had Michael Shermer who's a

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skeptic

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um and he had Stanton Friedman Fife

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Simington who was the senator that

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witnessed the Phoenix Lights incident

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and took you know serious interest in

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that even though he kind of debunked it

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originally uh and James Fox on the

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program and Buzz Aldrin came on

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um and James said you know you could

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actually hear James trying to ask him

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about the CE 33 uh chase that he

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was part of when he was a test pilot

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before he went to the Moon

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um and it just

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it was shut down and Buzz ridiculed them

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and then changed the subject and said oh

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you know you had Chris Angel on the

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other night he had all these Illusions

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and uh I I it was amazing what he could

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do and look at the illusions that are

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being made today or something like that

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like he he really was just dunking on

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ufology uh and James says he watched him

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lie

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uh you know to millions of people that

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were watching TV that night because

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at the time it had been many years later

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but James had been building that first

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documentary beyond the blue

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am I right about that yeah that's one of

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them that is one of his yeah yeah and he

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over the years had become friends with

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The In Crowd in Hollywood so he was a

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production assistant like I was a PA on

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sets

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um and he became close when he was

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younger to Mickey Rooney

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and uh Mickey said oh what are you doing

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when you're not on set like this and he

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said well I'm making a UFO film I said

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oh

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you should talk to Buzz Aldrin he's one

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of my best friends I said oh really Buzz

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Aldrin Apollo 11 astronaut and Gemini

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astronaut and test pilot okay what they

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said you should talk to Buzz Aldrin

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he knows some stuff and he's told me

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so James

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you know

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as the years go by he became he was

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working at some Charity Dinner

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and lo and behold feyan Potter who's

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Buzz aldrin's sister

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and was one of his best friends in life

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um was at this charity event and somehow

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they started talking and

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James said connected the dots said oh

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actually I'd love to speak to your

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brother sometime I'm friends with Mickey

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Rooney they were also friends I guess

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Faye and Mickey and she said well yeah I

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should hook you up with James because he

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told me himself about chasing a UFO when

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he was a test pilot as well as his

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Apollo 11

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UFO incident and it shook him he was

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shaken to the core he actually called me

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after the uh

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Jet Plane Chase incident and was shaking

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still when when he was on the phone with

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her

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so

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you know long story short he finally

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does get connected directly with buzz

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and Buzz says uh all right I'll

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interview you or I'll let you interview

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me but I'm on my book tour right now and

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I'm in Monte Carlo so you'll have to

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meet me

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so James went to a investor in Hollywood

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and borrowed I think like twenty

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thousand dollars or something

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flew over to Monte Carlo and Monte Carlo

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is not a cheap place they don't have

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Holiday Inns there uh no ice machine

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with the you know they don't have the

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00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:21,000
fast Walkers yeah so

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um he ended up checking into a hotel and

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two three days go by and Buzz still

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hasn't allowed the interview to take

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place and he keeps calling him saying

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man I am just burning through money here

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00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:36,360
you know everything's expensive the

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hotel the food the flights whatever

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00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:42,900
so finally buzz says yeah okay I'll meet

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you

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and uh

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James he says but do not have the

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cameras rolling No cameras rolling when

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00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:52,679
you come to the hotel just come meet me

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00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:56,220
at uh in the foyer the next day or

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00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:58,260
whatever so the fourth day goes to this

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00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,299
guy's hotel which is a much fancier

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00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:05,570
and he's waiting in this Cafe having

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like a croissant coffee or something and

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00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:11,400
um time flies and he's like where's this

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00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:12,480
guy and then

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the concierge says Monsieur you've got a

562
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:18,539
phone call and he picks it up it's buzz

563
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:21,299
and he says I'm not doing the interview

564
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,340
and so he says well why why would you

565
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:24,960
not do the interview like I spent all

566
00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:26,940
this money I took all this time it's

567
00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:29,100
really important for you to come clean

568
00:26:33,409 --> 00:26:31,020
about this because this would Elevate

569
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,419
this whole subject and you know bring it

570
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:36,120
out of this ridicule

571
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,580
um legitimize it if somebody like

572
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:41,039
yourself who's a leader

573
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:43,320
um somebody who has been to the Moon

574
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:47,039
people will take this seriously and Buzz

575
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:48,720
said

576
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:50,340
Paul Allen

577
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,240
just invested in seti search for

578
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:56,159
extraterrestrial intelligence which is

579
00:27:02,630 --> 00:26:59,760
directed by the elite astronomer Seth

580
00:27:04,610 --> 00:27:02,640
schostak who I had in the fast Walkers

581
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,620
documentary

582
00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:06,000
and

583
00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:07,860
he said

584
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,340
Paul Allen's been labeled the UFO quack

585
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,720
I'm trying to get

586
00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:15,360
500 million dollars in investing to

587
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,400
build a liquid rocket system to take

588
00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:19,919
tourists to space and I will not

589
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:22,380
jeopardize that project

590
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:25,860
by giving you my testimony about aliens

591
00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:28,860
and what is this gonna like how is this

592
00:27:34,909 --> 00:27:31,860
going to change anything anyways

593
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,919
and you know James protested but that

594
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:37,200
was his position and that was the end of

595
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,159
the call

596
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:40,320
so

597
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:41,580
um

598
00:27:48,169 --> 00:27:45,840
yeah I think that's that means to me

599
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:48,179
I think that's a true story and that

600
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:50,220
means to me that

601
00:27:57,769 --> 00:27:54,240
astronauts NASA they've been part of a

602
00:27:59,930 --> 00:27:57,779
cover-up of Truth for a long time now in

603
00:28:02,210 --> 00:27:59,940
my opinion and

604
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:02,220
um I don't know what what's gonna happen

605
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:04,980
this June when NASA releases their

606
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:07,260
reports

607
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:11,100
um but I really hope that maybe they

608
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:13,740
peel back a layer of the onion and

609
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:16,620
release more data

610
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:18,900
um from the past that they'd been

611
00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:23,520
collecting for all these years I hope

612
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:27,000
and so as far as like rude people's

613
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,620
concern is that like when you're waiting

614
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,960
for someone to back out of the space at

615
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,640
the grocery store and then someone like

616
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,559
as soon as that car clears they go

617
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,480
zipping in there

618
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:39,840
sure okay so I've I figured that is the

619
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,880
kind of person that would irritate a

620
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:44,880
Canadian or anybody you know

621
00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:47,100
um all right so uh let's go to Leah

622
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:48,360
prime time

623
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:52,080
hey Darcy super nice to finally meet you

624
00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:53,220
um I know we definitely have some

625
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:55,559
friends in common

626
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,779
so uh you actually mentioned Edgar

627
00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:00,240
Mitchell um I know he went on to help

628
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,100
found and support The Institute of

629
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:04,799
noetic Sciences I'm super curious to

630
00:29:08,269 --> 00:29:05,940
hear your thoughts on the overlap

631
00:29:11,390 --> 00:29:08,279
between witnessed anomalous phenomena

632
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:11,400
and Consciousness particularly shifts or

633
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:13,500
changes in Consciousness associated with

634
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,020
these experiences

635
00:29:21,769 --> 00:29:18,000
yeah I think

636
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:21,779
um The noetics Institute is uh really

637
00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:24,779
important for the study of Consciousness

638
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:28,679
and remote viewing As We Know It uh

639
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,779
today

640
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,080
some people don't know but when Edgar

641
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:36,720
had finished if you go on the noetics

642
00:29:42,409 --> 00:29:39,840
institute's website you can watch

643
00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:42,419
his testimony about why he started the

644
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:45,000
noetics Institute

645
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:47,220
um he claims that

646
00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:50,220
he had finished his duties uh

647
00:29:57,649 --> 00:29:53,100
had checked off all his tasks on his

648
00:30:01,250 --> 00:29:57,659
list uh getting to the moon and

649
00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:01,260
uh doing his Evas extra vehicular

650
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:03,000
activities and all that stuff and then

651
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:04,860
on the way back he actually kind of had

652
00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:06,600
a free ride

653
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:08,100
um and he said when he looked out into

654
00:30:12,289 --> 00:30:09,120
space

655
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:12,299
he had this Epiphany and this kind of

656
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,440
like download that you know

657
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,240
we we are special and we're all

658
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,679
connected and everything's connected

659
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,080
yada yada right

660
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,720
um but the deeper story to that is that

661
00:30:29,149 --> 00:30:26,880
he actually can

662
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,159
Edgar Mitchell

663
00:30:36,409 --> 00:30:32,159
is a deeply intelligent person he would

664
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:36,419
he is a savant uh was and he actually

665
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:38,700
carried out a scientific

666
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:41,580
test in remote viewing

667
00:30:48,409 --> 00:30:44,940
uh secretly with his friends on the way

668
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:48,419
back from the Moon what he did was he

669
00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:52,320
imagined something in his mind

670
00:30:58,010 --> 00:30:55,140
and at the exact same time his friends

671
00:31:01,250 --> 00:30:58,020
on Earth were to sketch out exactly what

672
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:01,260
he was imagining in deep space CIS lunar

673
00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:03,720
space the void between Earth and the

674
00:31:05,950 --> 00:31:04,380
Moon

675
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:05,960
on the way back

676
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,600
and supposedly his friends sketched out

677
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,240
exactly what he was thinking at that

678
00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:14,760
time on that day on the way back from

679
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:17,580
the Moon and it takes about

680
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:21,840
three days to get from Earth to the Moon

681
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:24,960
so that's powerful in terms of remote

682
00:31:30,529 --> 00:31:28,500
viewing study and proving that our

683
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:30,539
Consciousness is connected we're all

684
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:32,580
kind of connected and if you even look

685
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,539
at the UFO subject in general something

686
00:31:40,669 --> 00:31:39,120
that's been spoken out about quite often

687
00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:40,679
is that

688
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,840
the atomic bombs that originally were

689
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:45,360
detonated in the 40s

690
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:49,260
um alerted other intelligences in our

691
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,020
universe of our presence

692
00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:54,720
and by cracking the atom with such

693
00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:57,720
destruction we had

694
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:01,260
kind of flown a flag a beacon and they'd

695
00:32:05,570 --> 00:32:04,140
come here to start observing us uh on

696
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,580
Mass

697
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:08,159
the UFO wave of the 40s and 50s as they

698
00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:09,240
say

699
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:11,700
um I I think that also proves to some

700
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,740
kind of connectivity of Consciousness

701
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:16,080
and reality

702
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:17,580
um so

703
00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:20,700
yeah I think

704
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:22,740
Edgar Mitchell was

705
00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:25,740
an amazing person

706
00:32:29,389 --> 00:32:27,720
you know what's interesting is we were

707
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:29,399
just talking about James and how he

708
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:32,399
blanketed his topics on Joe Rogan and

709
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:34,380
you're doing the exact same thing here

710
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:37,440
you have an amazing grasp of all of this

711
00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:40,260
you know I I think everybody else is is

712
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:43,080
noticing that so uh thank you for just

713
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:45,480
being so well read to educate us on a

714
00:32:50,029 --> 00:32:47,940
lot of these things that uh we're not as

715
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:50,039
well read on uh I also want to say to

716
00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:51,240
everybody out there I think because we

717
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:53,100
talked about this before that we went

718
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,260
live that money Nathan is uh having

719
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:57,360
family night uh so he had something to

720
00:33:01,610 --> 00:32:58,799
do with his family and that's the reason

721
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,620
that he's not here and uh the only I

722
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:03,600
feel bad for Darcy that he's not here

723
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,640
because money Nathan's awesome and you

724
00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:07,440
would want to talk to him but uh

725
00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:09,000
hopefully at some point we'll get a part

726
00:33:13,009 --> 00:33:11,880
two uh when you uh do another movie or

727
00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:13,019
when you just want to come back on

728
00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:16,919
because uh wow you're you know uh you're

729
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:18,659
you're passing on some interesting info

730
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,720
so I'm I'm curious uh you alluded to

731
00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:24,480
that earlier about the outer space

732
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:27,260
aspect which has been somewhat lost

733
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:30,960
amongst the talk of ultra-terrestrial as

734
00:33:36,769 --> 00:33:33,480
you talked about uh the perhaps the

735
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:36,779
origin being under or C or just merely

736
00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:39,779
in a dimension where we cannot see this

737
00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,120
particular intelligence until it decides

738
00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:44,519
that it wants to pass through and reveal

739
00:33:50,769 --> 00:33:48,419
itself for whatever reason uh and and so

740
00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:50,779
like the thought of outer space

741
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:53,220
intelligences has been a little bit lost

742
00:33:57,529 --> 00:33:55,380
in the soup is is that your

743
00:34:01,850 --> 00:33:57,539
interpretation do you have any thoughts

744
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:01,860
about that about uh the uh let's just

745
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,380
say it extraterrestrial uh interaction

746
00:34:08,570 --> 00:34:07,200
with us as humans

747
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,580
I mean

748
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:09,839
you

749
00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:12,060
don't have to go far in science to

750
00:34:18,589 --> 00:34:15,060
realize that we are not unique you just

751
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:18,599
look at the Drake equation and

752
00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:22,080
based on math it states that if you just

753
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:24,780
look at the universe or the Galaxy our

754
00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:28,560
galaxy The Milky Way galaxy itself and

755
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:31,320
you boil down the multiple stars that

756
00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:35,399
are out there that are like our star

757
00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:38,040
with our same situation with the planet

758
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:40,500
that's in the Goldilocks zone that has

759
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:43,560
liquid water yada yada

760
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,159
um

761
00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:47,040
that evolve life and you know some of

762
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:48,839
those stars are further into the center

763
00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:52,560
of the Galaxy so they're thousands of

764
00:35:00,410 --> 00:34:55,740
years ahead of us in terms of time

765
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:00,420
um it would it would prove with that

766
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:02,820
mathematical equation that there's got

767
00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:05,520
to be at least millions of civilizations

768
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:08,520
in our Milky Way galaxy that are

769
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:11,280
intelligent can all of them you know

770
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,480
travel Intergalactic uh I don't know can

771
00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:18,480
have all of them survived and you know

772
00:35:24,829 --> 00:35:22,020
rised out of a singularity event uh and

773
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:24,839
not blown themselves up with weapons of

774
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:27,060
mass destruction I don't know

775
00:35:32,329 --> 00:35:31,440
but um to me it's logical that some of

776
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:32,339
them

777
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:35,880
have become space-faring let's say star

778
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:37,800
treky type

779
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:38,460
um

780
00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:42,000
researchers that follow protocols and

781
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:45,000
are looking at other planets and

782
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:45,900
um

783
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,500
may want to intervene may not want to

784
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:52,320
intervene there's uh you know you look

785
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:54,260
at the Holloman Air Force Base story

786
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:57,000
which is pretty cool I don't know if

787
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:00,000
it's a hundred percent true but if it is

788
00:36:08,050 --> 00:36:03,900
true some kind of being with a big nose

789
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:08,060
got off wearing like had like gray skin

790
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:10,980
and looked humanoid

791
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:13,680
holding a scepter said like take me to

792
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,000
your leader like on the base right and

793
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,880
uh yeah had Egyptian headgear and stuff

794
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:22,800
and um

795
00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:25,140
if you believe that that's pretty

796
00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:27,240
freaking cool that sounds like a

797
00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:29,820
different sort of interaction uh than

798
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:32,339
say what people State when they've

799
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:35,160
witnessed uh gray beings that are almost

800
00:36:41,089 --> 00:36:38,460
like an autonomous drone that is

801
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,099
carrying out a research exercise that

802
00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:43,140
are kind of Devo devoid of information

803
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,079
of uh emotion and um have like psychic

804
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:51,599
abilities and stuff like that

805
00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:54,660
um so I do believe that you know we

806
00:37:01,970 --> 00:36:57,300
might and and what better research

807
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:01,980
mission to conduct as a Intergalactic

808
00:37:07,089 --> 00:37:04,700
race if you don't want to harm yourself

809
00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:07,099
send some kind of

810
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,940
biological artificial intelligently

811
00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:13,440
Advanced humanoid

812
00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:16,260
and I think Gary Nolan kind of alludes

813
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:17,940
to that in his

814
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:21,420
perception of those types of uh Close

815
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:23,280
Encounters that people have had with

816
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:24,119
these

817
00:37:29,210 --> 00:37:26,820
kind of robotic beings he kind of says

818
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:29,220
well you know if you were super Advanced

819
00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:32,700
and you found these intelligent ants in

820
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,020
your backyard

821
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:36,720
would you go stand over them and try and

822
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:38,520
like have a chat with the ants or would

823
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,720
you create a life form that simulates

824
00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:45,119
something like them that they could

825
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:47,640
interact with

826
00:37:54,670 --> 00:37:51,599
um in which you can then perceive

827
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,680
some kind of uh understandably

828
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:56,640
understandable reality from that

829
00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:01,200
situation right so that literally might

830
00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:03,300
be something we're dealing with like

831
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,099
almost like artificial intelligent

832
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,160
beings that were sent to check us out

833
00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:11,280
more checking them out like ah

834
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:14,940
um and yeah so I think there is a

835
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:17,700
possibility of E.T

836
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:18,480
um

837
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:21,960
I think that the most informed on that

838
00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:24,780
would be the American Military for sure

839
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:26,820
and other militaries around the world

840
00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:30,060
that are part of the

841
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,859
cover-up

842
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,320
and you know first of all back to the

843
00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:36,240
story about uh Holloman Air Force Base

844
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,520
if any part of that story is true even

845
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:40,800
just a craft hovering over I don't know

846
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,200
one of the runways or the taxiways like

847
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:45,359
they said that in itself is amazing even

848
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:47,880
if you know a creature doesn't emerge

849
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:49,859
because you just you know you know

850
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:51,420
anything that either lands or is

851
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,160
hovering close to the crown that would

852
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,560
be mind-blowing just to see that you

853
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:57,599
know that's yeah there is that Walton

854
00:39:02,930 --> 00:39:00,599
business you know yeah Travis Walt is

855
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:02,940
this there's that small piece of footage

856
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:06,960
too which they included in um UFOs past

857
00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:09,420
present and future which is the

858
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:12,980
documentary that Robert emenegger made

859
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,099
about UFOs and included the Holloman Air

860
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:19,680
Force Base story in that

861
00:39:22,849 --> 00:39:21,180
um I got to see it man I was going to

862
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:22,859
ask you for your Source now you ought to

863
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:24,540
see that you got to see that they

864
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:25,859
actually if you watch there's another

865
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,380
documentary that came out uh I think in

866
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:31,200
the early 2000s

867
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:32,760
um and

868
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:36,000
it it's from Young filmmakers like

869
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:38,520
myself that Tracked Down uh Robert

870
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:43,680
ebmenegger and he's like yup I had the

871
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:48,060
whole reel of footage that they shot on

872
00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:50,300
the base at the Holloman Air Force Base

873
00:39:58,910 --> 00:39:54,420
I actually went to the Pentagon and the

874
00:40:01,310 --> 00:39:58,920
general that had looked after that gave

875
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:01,320
me the spool of footage and said go for

876
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,780
it put it in your documentary you have

877
00:40:09,609 --> 00:40:05,160
my blessing

878
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:09,619
he was like mid production and was

879
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:13,680
splicing that in and essentially the CIA

880
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:17,160
came on to set and said you are not to

881
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,800
use that confiscated it but they were

882
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:22,320
allowed to use a small fraction of the

883
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:24,660
footage they could keep in which was

884
00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:26,339
just this

885
00:40:30,349 --> 00:40:27,300
um

886
00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:30,359
light crap like a craft that was

887
00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:32,099
emanating sort of an

888
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:35,460
energetic Aura off in the distance and

889
00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:37,740
it was flying down from the the

890
00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:39,480
Mountainside

891
00:40:45,770 --> 00:40:41,880
coming towards the landing strip of the

892
00:40:48,589 --> 00:40:45,780
Holloman Air Force Base and then it cuts

893
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:48,599
um and Emma negr said I put in that

894
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:52,020
because it's like a little tease but you

895
00:40:57,770 --> 00:40:53,220
know what happened

896
00:40:59,690 --> 00:40:57,780
when the guy is sitting on the tarmac he

897
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:59,700
was literally recording that thing come

898
00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:02,880
right up to the tarmac land extend a

899
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:03,960
ramp

900
00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:06,540
this dude gets out with the scepter the

901
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:09,780
Egyptian headpiece and the beak-like

902
00:41:12,589 --> 00:41:10,800
nose

903
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:12,599
weird eyes

904
00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:15,060
and says take me to your leader and they

905
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:17,339
kind of like go off and have a meeting

906
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,000
and imagine that like imagine that

907
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:23,760
if that's true and there's been other

908
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,180
encounters throughout history that the

909
00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:29,760
military has

910
00:41:36,349 --> 00:41:32,700
whisked away and and hidden that footage

911
00:41:38,089 --> 00:41:36,359
hidden that data hidden those encounters

912
00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:38,099
um for the public not to see because

913
00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:39,660
they don't want to shake they don't want

914
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:40,980
to rock the boat

915
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,220
yeah it that that is that is amazing I

916
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,839
kind of remember that now I remember

917
00:41:49,730 --> 00:41:47,520
someone saying talking like it kind of

918
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:49,740
was doing a little like kind of like a

919
00:41:53,569 --> 00:41:51,780
leaf like swing back and forth I heard

920
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,579
that narrative but now I got to watch

921
00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:55,200
the film because I want to get the best

922
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:57,540
the best source on that that has got to

923
00:42:03,050 --> 00:42:00,900
be one of the most amazing uh you know

924
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:03,060
Encounters of all time as far as just

925
00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:05,220
seeing a craft and I mean that's like

926
00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:06,839
your movies have been made about that

927
00:42:11,569 --> 00:42:08,460
and then tootin common with the Jimmy

928
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,579
Durante knows so um yeah I don't know

929
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:13,680
why they haven't made like an

930
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:16,260
Independence Day reenactment of that

931
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:19,260
film that could that could be so awesome

932
00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:21,420
but anyway I know a filmmaker in Canada

933
00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:24,420
that might do it named Darcy Weir sorry

934
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:28,140
yeah me and my five bucks in my pocket

935
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,420
you do amazing work with that five bucks

936
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:32,400
man Debs go ahead my friend

937
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:35,460
yeah so I wanted to bring up something

938
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:38,880
that happened about two days ago

939
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:40,500
um as we know other countries are

940
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:43,020
starting to develop space programs and

941
00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:45,540
trying to catch up and one of those

942
00:42:50,930 --> 00:42:48,599
countries attempted to send

943
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:50,940
um a Lander to the moon and

944
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:52,980
unfortunately failed

945
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,980
um sorry Japan I feel really bad for

946
00:43:00,650 --> 00:42:57,359
them

947
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,660
um and I it brings up the question of

948
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:02,400
what the heck is going on with the moon

949
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,160
like why did we spend all that money to

950
00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:07,440
go there and then we pretty much didn't

951
00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:11,339
touch it again and now only now decades

952
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:13,500
later are we even considering it again

953
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,140
and I know there's a lot of speculation

954
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:18,480
about astronauts having seen stuff on

955
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:20,700
the moon so I just wanted to get some of

956
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,260
your thoughts about what the heck is

957
00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:24,000
going on with that move

958
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:26,760
yes I mean

959
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:27,960
um

960
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:32,040
the Moon is a really strange object that

961
00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:35,520
floats outside of our planet and uh Mike

962
00:43:40,849 --> 00:43:38,579
Bara actually has the theory that

963
00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:40,859
possibly

964
00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:42,599
um

965
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:45,540
there's these glass structures that are

966
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,960
on the moon uh sort of like hit Richard

967
00:43:56,809 --> 00:43:51,420
C Hoagland wrote this book called Dark

968
00:43:58,970 --> 00:43:56,819
Mission with Mike Barra Bara and I Tried

969
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,980
reading it a long time ago and I

970
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,240
literally

971
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,400
don't have a math brain and it started

972
00:44:07,309 --> 00:44:05,040
going off into all these technical

973
00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:07,319
um interpretations of things and I was

974
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,619
like just I think I've got a learning

975
00:44:13,849 --> 00:44:12,000
disability or something because I just

976
00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:13,859
started falling asleep as soon as that

977
00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:16,980
stuff coming came up but um

978
00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:19,560
but you know they talk about

979
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:21,960
glass domes and stuff there are photos

980
00:44:27,470 --> 00:44:25,260
that were taken from the um

981
00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:27,480
what are the Russian missions that

982
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:29,099
happened in the 60s where they sent

983
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:37,190
anyways there's Russian missions that

984
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:39,000
they sent to the moon and you can see

985
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:41,700
glass sort of Domes over craters and

986
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:42,839
stuff

987
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:45,180
for whatever reason a lot of the NASA

988
00:44:50,329 --> 00:44:47,819
photography doesn't show that but they

989
00:44:53,089 --> 00:44:50,339
show some of those photos in these this

990
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:53,099
book and Mike Barra and Richard C

991
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:54,540
Hoagland have

992
00:44:57,530 --> 00:44:56,520
archives of this

993
00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:57,540
um

994
00:45:01,490 --> 00:44:59,400
and

995
00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:01,500
their whole theory is that if there's

996
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,300
glass that is made in a vacuum in a uh

997
00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:07,980
zero

998
00:45:12,530 --> 00:45:10,380
oxygen atmosphere so the glass that's

999
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:12,540
behind me in this window is brittle

1000
00:45:17,950 --> 00:45:15,300
because there's oxygen in the pain but

1001
00:45:20,690 --> 00:45:17,960
if you have it in space apparently

1002
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,700
theoretically if you could synthesize it

1003
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:23,520
out there it would be harder than steel

1004
00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:25,260
like steel because it would wouldn't

1005
00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:29,339
have the oxygen or the bubbles and

1006
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:33,060
bubbles inside of it so he theorizes

1007
00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:37,140
that the moon at one point had multiple

1008
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:39,480
glass structures on it sort of

1009
00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:42,060
surrounding bases

1010
00:45:46,190 --> 00:45:44,700
and other monolithic structures which

1011
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,200
you can see in some of the photos from

1012
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,680
Apollo 1 to 11 the documentary that we

1013
00:45:53,809 --> 00:45:51,960
were talking about and

1014
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:53,819
um

1015
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:55,800
you know when you talk about the

1016
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:57,180
Japanese

1017
00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:58,740
um

1018
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:01,619
what was it called uh like Lander that

1019
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:05,220
just crashed and and they lost it

1020
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:09,780
it brings to mind Mike barra's uh baras

1021
00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:15,000
my bad I always do that I'm like but

1022
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:18,119
um Mike Berra's explanation of what

1023
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,300
happened to the surveyor too

1024
00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:24,240
um spacecraft so we had the lunar

1025
00:46:28,569 --> 00:46:27,240
orbiter missions that were sent over

1026
00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:28,579
um

1027
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:32,339
before we landed on the moon with Apollo

1028
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:35,579
11 and those lunar orbiter missions were

1029
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:38,280
satellites that just took tons and tons

1030
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,060
and tons of photos in a mosaic and then

1031
00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:44,400
when they got back those photos back to

1032
00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:47,220
Earth they would put all the photos

1033
00:46:52,510 --> 00:46:50,520
together and create a accurate lunar map

1034
00:46:55,370 --> 00:46:52,520
of the Moon

1035
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:55,380
and they were trying to find probably

1036
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,000
objects

1037
00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:00,359
areas of interest and suitable Landing

1038
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:04,200
spots for the Apollo the later manned

1039
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:05,359
missions where they were going to land

1040
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:09,839
and the surveyor craft did very similar

1041
00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:13,440
things but surveyor 2

1042
00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:16,740
that crashed into something

1043
00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:20,339
and you know it just came out of nowhere

1044
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,440
because they don't see they didn't see

1045
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:24,240
anything that should be there but if you

1046
00:47:28,569 --> 00:47:25,980
think about there being these glass

1047
00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:28,579
structures that are Relic that are

1048
00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:31,619
massive and sitting towering over the

1049
00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:33,180
surface

1050
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,460
that craft might have smashed into it

1051
00:47:39,370 --> 00:47:37,740
and maybe that could be what happened

1052
00:47:42,589 --> 00:47:39,380
with this Japanese

1053
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:42,599
surveying craft Lander it might have hit

1054
00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:46,079
something that is glass that we can't

1055
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:50,280
actually see until you're right there

1056
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:54,300
um like closer to the lunar surface

1057
00:48:01,849 --> 00:47:59,809
um and I was trying I was trying to

1058
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:01,859
bring up fast Walkers so I could uh put

1059
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:03,900
that link up there so I'll try to get

1060
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:06,599
that uh for the next uh question but

1061
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:08,700
yeah please Matt we have we might have

1062
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:10,380
it looks like we only got a little over

1063
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,859
12 minutes or so left with Darcy so and

1064
00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:15,660
I'll try to get a little Bigfoot out of

1065
00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:17,160
him if I can but go ahead Matt please

1066
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,420
sir

1067
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:20,400
I was just wondering what your thoughts

1068
00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:23,339
are as you know you've got SpaceX and

1069
00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:25,400
you've got these private individuals

1070
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,680
going out into outer space and planning

1071
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,240
on going to Mars and everywhere else

1072
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:31,920
what kind of pressure do you think

1073
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,380
that's put on the government to come

1074
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,000
forward with this information because

1075
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:38,640
once those people are up there they have

1076
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:40,200
no reason to keep their mouth shut about

1077
00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:41,940
anything they observe

1078
00:48:46,849 --> 00:48:43,980
I think they have every reason to

1079
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:46,859
because it's not their sandbox that

1080
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:48,839
they're playing in they just have the

1081
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,240
keys to the vehicle

1082
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,720
um or the two they have the toys you

1083
00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:55,920
know

1084
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,400
and so if it's not your sandbox it's not

1085
00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:02,640
your rules and I think that

1086
00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:05,900
it's very possible that

1087
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:08,819
SpaceX has been read into some of this

1088
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:09,900
stuff

1089
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,480
um in fast Walkers I cover all these

1090
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:14,640
like UFO anomalies that have been

1091
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,920
recorded throughout the STS missions up

1092
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:18,660
until now

1093
00:49:22,970 --> 00:49:21,000
um and the STS missions were

1094
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:22,980
designed to

1095
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:26,040
do experiments in space with a reusable

1096
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,839
craft but also build the ISS the

1097
00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:33,119
International Space Station they would

1098
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:36,060
carry up parts and and build it with

1099
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:39,540
that spacecraft so

1100
00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:42,240
if you look at all the anomalies that

1101
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,240
they uh were present during that I was

1102
00:49:52,250 --> 00:49:48,180
talking on another podcast uh before but

1103
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:52,260
Jeffrey Challenger is a interesting UFO

1104
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:55,140
researcher that was watching all the STS

1105
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,520
missions

1106
00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:58,319
um

1107
00:50:03,770 --> 00:50:01,140
during the 2000s before he passed he was

1108
00:50:06,589 --> 00:50:03,780
a handicapped man he watched the NASA

1109
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:06,599
downlink footage and would record uh

1110
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:09,839
that footage onto VHS tapes and he

1111
00:50:14,329 --> 00:50:11,940
realized when he was watching the

1112
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:14,339
Russian space

1113
00:50:19,790 --> 00:50:17,160
um program guys the engineers there they

1114
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:19,800
were communicating with NASA trying to

1115
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:23,640
line up the soyuz capsule with the ISS

1116
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:27,420
dock right and they realized and said on

1117
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:30,960
air oh yeah you guys have that 20 second

1118
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:33,900
video delay right

1119
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:37,020
so Jeff identified that he also

1120
00:50:41,390 --> 00:50:39,300
identified that um

1121
00:50:44,589 --> 00:50:41,400
NASA

1122
00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:44,599
quite obviously would turn on a video

1123
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:48,780
noise like filter a distortion to the

1124
00:50:54,770 --> 00:50:52,260
video feed that would distort the video

1125
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:54,780
so that if anything comes flies into

1126
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:57,000
view that's anomalous they could just

1127
00:51:02,450 --> 00:51:00,000
debunk it call it space size and stuff

1128
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:02,460
like that two other things that they did

1129
00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:05,760
during the STS missions was

1130
00:51:10,490 --> 00:51:07,319
um they would

1131
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:10,500
Pan the camera away from something if it

1132
00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:13,800
was anomalous on on video they would cut

1133
00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:15,059
the feed

1134
00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:18,180
and um you see

1135
00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:21,720
the same sort of actions happen on

1136
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:25,319
SpaceX missions where the video will all

1137
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:27,780
sudden start recording something that

1138
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,579
looks anomalous like an object that's

1139
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:31,680
flying into view and kind of following

1140
00:51:36,589 --> 00:51:34,920
that type of thing and uh they'll cut

1141
00:51:38,510 --> 00:51:36,599
the camera feed or they'll switch to

1142
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:38,520
another camera that's not picking up

1143
00:51:42,109 --> 00:51:40,440
that so I think

1144
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,119
um

1145
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,119
I think you know I've said this before

1146
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,000
but if we are like in the public

1147
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:50,220
becoming a more space-faring Nation

1148
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,220
going out to Mars building a base on the

1149
00:51:58,730 --> 00:51:55,500
moon competing with other nations to do

1150
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:58,740
the same thing and settles settle uh on

1151
00:52:03,530 --> 00:51:59,839
other places

1152
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,540
in uh our solar system

1153
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:06,240
it's logical to me that they do actually

1154
00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:10,559
disclose some kind of UFO activity and

1155
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,260
they they run that disclosure through

1156
00:52:17,089 --> 00:52:15,359
NASA

1157
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:17,099
um because

1158
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:19,680
you know it will warn the public that

1159
00:52:23,329 --> 00:52:21,300
we're not alone and that we might be

1160
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:23,339
seeing that stuff when we're going out

1161
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:26,040
into space in a bit bigger and better

1162
00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:37,430
can't hear you DJ DJ you're muted thank

1163
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:39,420
you very much I unfortunately I didn't

1164
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:41,700
get that from my from my cough a minute

1165
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:44,400
ago but uh go ahead prime time and then

1166
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:46,020
I'll I'll get to my question for Mr

1167
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:47,280
Darcy

1168
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:48,540
yeah sure

1169
00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:51,900
um so one of my favorite

1170
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:54,420
how their views have changed over time

1171
00:52:58,430 --> 00:52:56,460
so as you've been producing these films

1172
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,440
conducting these interviews doing this

1173
00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:01,559
kind of research what sort of core views

1174
00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:04,680
or theories have changed over the course

1175
00:53:13,549 --> 00:53:11,390
um you know to be skeptical because

1176
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:13,559
there's a lot of disinformation and

1177
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:17,280
noise that's out there in

1178
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,460
the research of this phenomenon I

1179
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:22,079
started

1180
00:53:28,730 --> 00:53:25,619
making films in this genre uh back in

1181
00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:28,740
2009 and uh

1182
00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:30,359
this

1183
00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:33,180
you know it's 2023 I'm really bad at

1184
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:36,780
math but I'm 38 now and I've learned a

1185
00:53:42,589 --> 00:53:39,900
lot in in the process

1186
00:53:44,809 --> 00:53:42,599
um and I've debunked publicly

1187
00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:44,819
uh Phil Schneider which was my very

1188
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,460
first documentary I don't believe that

1189
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:49,500
he was in an alien battle in an

1190
00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:50,900
underground base

1191
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:52,619
but I

1192
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:55,680
you know started from there and learned

1193
00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,119
a lot and uh I think

1194
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:01,500
what was interesting about that story to

1195
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:03,000
me is that there might actually be

1196
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:06,559
clandestine bases that are used to house

1197
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:10,079
exotic Technologies carryout experiments

1198
00:54:14,829 --> 00:54:12,660
that are kept out of sight and out of

1199
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,839
sound from the public

1200
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:17,280
that's that's a more interesting story

1201
00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:19,140
to me but Phil was like that

1202
00:54:25,010 --> 00:54:21,960
sensationalism of you know being this

1203
00:54:27,049 --> 00:54:25,020
almost like Rambo James Bond type

1204
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:27,059
character that got into a firefight with

1205
00:54:31,069 --> 00:54:29,579
an alien right so

1206
00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:31,079
um

1207
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,420
you have to be skeptical there's a lot

1208
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:35,040
of disinformation there's a lot of cult

1209
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:38,040
leaders out there in this space

1210
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,359
um

1211
00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:42,000
I'm not very good at following people so

1212
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:44,460
I never really got you know hooked by

1213
00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:49,500
any of them and um I do sort of flex my

1214
00:54:53,809 --> 00:54:52,440
ex my skept ability when it when it when

1215
00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:53,819
it comes to

1216
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:55,859
stuff coming from the government and

1217
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,480
stuff coming from the UFO Community

1218
00:55:04,609 --> 00:55:00,079
because you know I think the greatest

1219
00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:04,619
test for truth is time

1220
00:55:09,410 --> 00:55:06,660
as time passes

1221
00:55:12,049 --> 00:55:09,420
it will we will collect more data right

1222
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,059
and we will be able to fully debunk

1223
00:55:17,890 --> 00:55:14,640
something or fully prove something and

1224
00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:17,900
as time passes and you get

1225
00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:22,260
depositions and uh all kinds of more

1226
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:25,500
data that certain people are sketchy and

1227
00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:28,200
making things up and just defrauding the

1228
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:30,599
public with their stories and taking

1229
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,420
money from people and claiming that

1230
00:55:37,970 --> 00:55:35,040
there's going to be an alien invasion

1231
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:37,980
and the only way to uh you know get out

1232
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:41,760
of this is to pray with the ce5 you know

1233
00:55:48,049 --> 00:55:44,880
uh meditation or something I'm a little

1234
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:48,059
I'm like wary of those stories because

1235
00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:49,440
um

1236
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,540
I don't believe it's gonna work and I I

1237
00:55:57,530 --> 00:55:54,240
think you know kind of As Above So Below

1238
00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:57,540
uh if we live in a predatory on a

1239
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:58,800
predatory Planet there's probably

1240
00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:01,920
Predators out there so to speak

1241
00:56:08,030 --> 00:56:04,500
um so

1242
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:08,040
be careful with the message of

1243
00:56:12,910 --> 00:56:09,599
fear and love

1244
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:12,920
it it always tends to be that recipe

1245
00:56:20,690 --> 00:56:17,819
that cons the public into what uh

1246
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:20,700
somebody else wants so fear is the

1247
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,380
motivator to

1248
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:24,559
to let your

1249
00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:27,420
protective layer down whether that's

1250
00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:30,359
your mind or whatever

1251
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:34,020
um but then love is the way to con you

1252
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:38,220
into coming with them and thinking that

1253
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:40,260
they're your friend and that you've

1254
00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:44,040
they've got your back and uh you know

1255
00:56:47,930 --> 00:56:46,200
I've just seen that play out and it it's

1256
00:56:51,230 --> 00:56:47,940
always playing out throughout history

1257
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,240
that that same recipe if you're in love

1258
00:56:56,270 --> 00:56:53,280
um be careful with it

1259
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,280
I am I love what you said to one of my

1260
00:57:01,130 --> 00:56:58,319
favorite sayings is that truth is the

1261
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:01,140
daughter of time uh oh that's cool yeah

1262
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,200
yeah yeah yeah yeah you can have that

1263
00:57:08,329 --> 00:57:05,599
one for free man

1264
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,339
great answer thanks Darcy

1265
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,559
so what's brilliant about having uh

1266
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:12,420
Prime Time on you get stuff truth is the

1267
00:57:18,109 --> 00:57:14,819
daughter of time I love it

1268
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:18,119
um so my friend um kind of like where I

1269
00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:21,300
think Deb was was going and and what I

1270
00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:23,460
would sort of reframe that question is

1271
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,140
do you believe that there is some sort

1272
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,200
of life that's existent on Mars now that

1273
00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:33,119
we're not aware of meaning the General

1274
00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,160
Public

1275
00:57:40,730 --> 00:57:37,740
there was a scientist I can't remember

1276
00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:40,740
his name he published a paper that

1277
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:43,020
um you know I think this was back in

1278
00:57:47,690 --> 00:57:46,619
the early 2000s that soil samples they

1279
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:47,700
got

1280
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,280
from Mars or from their detective

1281
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,680
detection

1282
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:54,000
scientific instruments that are out

1283
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:55,380
there

1284
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,300
um showed

1285
00:58:07,430 --> 00:57:59,520
the chemical

1286
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:10,549
life like for organisms that were

1287
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,440
microbes at least and

1288
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:15,960
um NASA actually like ousted that

1289
00:58:20,930 --> 00:58:18,119
scientist and I can't remember his name

1290
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:20,940
they just destroyed him they said it's

1291
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,380
not true

1292
00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:24,480
we don't validate that that claim and

1293
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:27,420
all that stuff I think that there's such

1294
00:58:31,849 --> 00:58:30,900
a strong

1295
00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:31,859
um

1296
00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:35,099
pushback on there being any other life

1297
00:58:40,130 --> 00:58:37,140
out there from NASA

1298
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:40,140
is proof that there's got to be

1299
00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:42,599
something there there might be well I

1300
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,040
meant the moon I might have said the

1301
00:58:47,329 --> 00:58:45,839
Mars but I meant the Moon that if

1302
00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:47,339
there's something existed on the moon so

1303
00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:50,760
I apologize I misspoke oh uh for the

1304
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:54,420
moon then two for one eh so the moon I

1305
00:58:56,930 --> 00:58:55,500
think

1306
00:58:59,690 --> 00:58:56,940
what

1307
00:59:03,770 --> 00:58:59,700
I kind of like avi's

1308
00:59:05,410 --> 00:59:03,780
um idea when when he first said you know

1309
00:59:09,230 --> 00:59:05,420
that an object

1310
00:59:12,770 --> 00:59:09,240
was a relic a object from a relic

1311
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,780
civilization possibly right

1312
00:59:18,890 --> 00:59:15,359
um that had come through our Oort cloud

1313
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:18,900
and into our solar system and you know

1314
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:21,180
through the asteroid belts and then

1315
00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:23,460
around the Sun and sped up and headed

1316
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:26,040
out of the solar system right

1317
00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:27,960
um you know I interviewed him recently

1318
00:59:34,609 --> 00:59:31,140
and he said that he just thinks it's a

1319
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:34,619
piece not like a fully functioning

1320
00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:36,359
technology he just thinks it's something

1321
00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:38,520
that may have floated off of a Dyson

1322
00:59:42,770 --> 00:59:40,920
Sphere somewhere out there which is not

1323
00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:42,780
very exciting to me

1324
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:45,900
but what I think when I look at like DAC

1325
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,680
Motion Picture footage of UFOs that are

1326
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,839
flying around in space from the Apollo

1327
00:59:56,030 --> 00:59:53,880
missions or

1328
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,040
um something that's

1329
01:00:01,250 --> 00:59:59,040
on the lunar surface emitting sound you

1330
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,260
know there's the the music that was

1331
01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:03,599
heard by the astronauts during first

1332
01:00:08,510 --> 01:00:05,819
during the Apollo 8 mission and then

1333
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,520
later on during the Apollo 10 Mission we

1334
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:11,119
have a lot of the um

1335
01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:13,380
dsea tapes which is like the flight

1336
01:00:18,530 --> 01:00:15,960
recorder black box that they had on

1337
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:18,540
those Apollo capsules you can hear the

1338
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,839
astronauts you know exclaiming there's

1339
01:00:25,069 --> 01:00:23,760
this really spooky music we can hear

1340
01:00:26,890 --> 01:00:25,079
over here and they're kind of like

1341
01:00:29,870 --> 01:00:26,900
trying to sing with it they're like

1342
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:29,880
stuff like that and there was a bit of

1343
01:00:33,470 --> 01:00:31,920
audio that was recovered from that that

1344
01:00:36,349 --> 01:00:33,480
came out

1345
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:36,359
and I put that in the documentary

1346
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,480
to me it would make sense that there is

1347
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:41,520
Relic technology out there that is

1348
01:00:46,510 --> 01:00:45,180
autonomously running like UFOs or

1349
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:46,520
robotic

1350
01:00:51,770 --> 01:00:49,200
instruments on the surface of the Moon

1351
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:51,780
there's a guy who wrote a book

1352
01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:54,960
who who is on the moon and it like shows

1353
01:01:00,349 --> 01:00:57,780
photos of like tracks going through

1354
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,359
craters and out of craters along the

1355
01:01:04,609 --> 01:01:02,040
lunar surface and stuff and these are

1356
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:04,619
real legitimate photos they haven't been

1357
01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:08,400
doctored it makes you think that there's

1358
01:01:13,549 --> 01:01:10,980
something up there still operating

1359
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:13,559
but maybe

1360
01:01:19,970 --> 01:01:17,880
you know uh whoever set that into motion

1361
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:19,980
is no longer living and it's just

1362
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,799
running and maybe that's why you know

1363
01:01:27,470 --> 01:01:24,000
people

1364
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:27,480
um speculate maybe that's Mike Berra for

1365
01:01:34,670 --> 01:01:30,839
example exclaims that

1366
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:34,680
the Apollo 11 mission was the mission to

1367
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:36,780
land on the moon and prove we could do

1368
01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:37,619
it

1369
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:41,880
in a kind of uninteresting area

1370
01:01:48,049 --> 01:01:45,359
um but Apollo 12 to 17 were Salvage

1371
01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:48,059
missions where we were going up there to

1372
01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:50,339
look at something and possibly take

1373
01:01:54,109 --> 01:01:52,619
something back to Earth with us and

1374
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:54,119
that's what they talk a lot about in

1375
01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:57,780
dark Mission they they theorize that

1376
01:02:02,510 --> 01:01:59,220
they were trying to find this like

1377
01:02:06,049 --> 01:02:02,520
ancient Relic alien technology that was

1378
01:02:07,849 --> 01:02:06,059
possibly left there and kind of

1379
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,859
backwards engineer it if they got it

1380
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:09,839
back to the planet I don't know if it's

1381
01:02:16,569 --> 01:02:12,420
true but uh

1382
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:16,579
you know if it's if if

1383
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:19,559
we become a space-faring race and make

1384
01:02:24,829 --> 01:02:22,260
it to another star and some something

1385
01:02:27,289 --> 01:02:24,839
cataclysmic happens and wipes us out but

1386
01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:27,299
our technology is still left

1387
01:02:31,789 --> 01:02:29,460
could be possible

1388
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:31,799
well I mean

1389
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:35,280
you know uh it it I mean how many soil

1390
01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:37,380
samples and rock samples can you take I

1391
01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:39,059
mean if you're gonna do like you know

1392
01:02:43,730 --> 01:02:41,700
like five or six more missions uh just

1393
01:02:46,370 --> 01:02:43,740
to say oh look we brought back some more

1394
01:02:48,530 --> 01:02:46,380
Moon dust and and some rock I mean

1395
01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:48,540
granted I mean the geology training if

1396
01:02:54,049 --> 01:02:51,240
anybody ever saw that documentary where

1397
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:54,059
all those uh Apollo Astronauts are out

1398
01:02:58,190 --> 01:02:56,160
in in a lava field like in Hawaii

1399
01:03:00,349 --> 01:02:58,200
learning how to take samples from

1400
01:03:01,789 --> 01:03:00,359
geologists and Neil the one who looked

1401
01:03:03,710 --> 01:03:01,799
like he was taking it serious was Neil

1402
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,720
Armstrong go figure they made him the

1403
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,280
mission commander and the rest of them

1404
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:07,200
were sort of joshing around and you know

1405
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:09,900
doing uh jockler like Snap in their

1406
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,240
t-shirts at one another and here's Neil

1407
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:15,119
you know collecting legit samples but uh

1408
01:03:19,210 --> 01:03:16,980
but yeah I I mean I agree with you it

1409
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:19,220
seems like there must have been a larger

1410
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,319
uh uh Mission set that that they had in

1411
01:03:25,849 --> 01:03:24,480
mind rather than because Who the hell's

1412
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:25,859
gonna just keep going doing the same

1413
01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:28,559
Mission over and over you know well yeah

1414
01:03:32,690 --> 01:03:29,940
I mean like

1415
01:03:34,849 --> 01:03:32,700
um I don't think they

1416
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:34,859
you know Mike Mike uh have you ever

1417
01:03:39,069 --> 01:03:37,020
heard of a show called The y-files I

1418
01:03:41,690 --> 01:03:39,079
think it's an excellent show on YouTube

1419
01:03:44,690 --> 01:03:41,700
they kind of go through conspiracy

1420
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:44,700
theories and then they debunk them and

1421
01:03:49,490 --> 01:03:46,260
also talk about the provocative

1422
01:03:51,049 --> 01:03:49,500
provocative aspects of them uh it's

1423
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:51,059
really well produced show they're

1424
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:54,180
usually like 25 27 minutes and Mike uh

1425
01:03:58,910 --> 01:03:55,920
Berra has been

1426
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,920
writing for them and he did some he did

1427
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:00,960
like solar reward and which is like the

1428
01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:03,359
theory that we have this like

1429
01:04:07,549 --> 01:04:05,339
um Galactic or we have this like

1430
01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:07,559
space-based defense system to keep

1431
01:04:12,289 --> 01:04:09,660
aliens out or something like that and

1432
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,299
it's not true but we definitely have

1433
01:04:16,609 --> 01:04:14,400
defense systems in space like the DSP

1434
01:04:18,770 --> 01:04:16,619
satellites and stuff I spoke about

1435
01:04:20,030 --> 01:04:18,780
earlier probably way more sophisticated

1436
01:04:23,569 --> 01:04:20,040
stuff now

1437
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:23,579
but um you know uh the y-files did a

1438
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,680
really cool episode on debunking the

1439
01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:28,319
Apollo 20 footage that

1440
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:31,500
um Rutledge released on YouTube where

1441
01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:34,680
you see this like Mona Lisa alien uh

1442
01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:36,780
they call it the Mona Lisa it's got

1443
01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:38,940
these big like Kardashian lips and like

1444
01:04:43,609 --> 01:04:41,099
kind of a well I've actually kind of got

1445
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,619
the same thing like wait a minute we may

1446
01:04:48,890 --> 01:04:45,900
be burning in a skull in the middle of

1447
01:04:52,010 --> 01:04:48,900
its forehead and uh you know there's

1448
01:04:53,329 --> 01:04:52,020
footage but you find out that um

1449
01:05:03,289 --> 01:04:53,339
that

1450
01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:03,299
making on a budget in Hollywood and I

1451
01:05:08,690 --> 01:05:06,839
guess he wrote a book and uh he wrote a

1452
01:05:09,770 --> 01:05:08,700
book about how that was all faked and

1453
01:05:12,109 --> 01:05:09,780
stuff and

1454
01:05:15,049 --> 01:05:12,119
I don't think that we recovered aliens

1455
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:15,059
and and stuff like that from the Moon I

1456
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:18,660
don't believe in Apollo 20. but um

1457
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:22,380
I don't think Mike uh Vera does either

1458
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:23,760
but

1459
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:24,480
um

1460
01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:27,720
there are really weird photos of what

1461
01:05:34,490 --> 01:05:30,540
looks like almost Android heads in

1462
01:05:37,490 --> 01:05:34,500
craters on the lunar surface during uh

1463
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:37,500
the later Apollo missions there seems to

1464
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:41,280
be colors emanating in the soil

1465
01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:42,720
um in some of the Apollo Mission

1466
01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:45,180
photography

1467
01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:47,460
um which if you look at

1468
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:51,480
a prism or like the Pink Floyd The you

1469
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,240
know uh front cover that has that prism

1470
01:05:58,730 --> 01:05:56,400
and the light shines into it and then

1471
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,740
refracts it into the different colors of

1472
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:00,720
the lights

1473
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:02,880
that's what he theorizes is happening

1474
01:06:07,609 --> 01:06:04,079
that maybe there's these glass

1475
01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:07,619
structures that are somewhere off in the

1476
01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:09,240
distance and light is shining through

1477
01:06:13,849 --> 01:06:11,880
and changing the color of the Moon dust

1478
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:13,859
on the the lunar surface so it looks

1479
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:15,900
like there's color but really it's just

1480
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,960
that Prismatic effect and

1481
01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:20,700
um I don't know there could be some kind

1482
01:06:24,609 --> 01:06:23,640
of Technology up there that maybe all of

1483
01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:24,619
these

1484
01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:29,460
uh different nations or racing to get up

1485
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:31,380
there for right now you know build the

1486
01:06:36,529 --> 01:06:34,140
base maybe find some stuff while they're

1487
01:06:38,089 --> 01:06:36,539
up there I knew that Pink Floyd was on

1488
01:06:41,289 --> 01:06:38,099
to something when I saw that album cover

1489
01:06:43,309 --> 01:06:41,299
when I was a kid I just knew it oh yeah

1490
01:06:45,529 --> 01:06:43,319
if you would

1491
01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:45,539
um I I have two questions from uh Tim

1492
01:06:49,970 --> 01:06:47,940
from Bigfoot influencers here and then

1493
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,980
uh I'd like to if you could just give us

1494
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,119
a couple of minutes and if you don't

1495
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:53,280
have a couple minutes we won't but I

1496
01:06:56,450 --> 01:06:54,480
just wanted to ask you about your

1497
01:06:58,670 --> 01:06:56,460
Bigfoot films but here's one right here

1498
01:07:00,289 --> 01:06:58,680
have there been any recent videos coming

1499
01:07:02,089 --> 01:07:00,299
from and just make these quick hitters

1500
01:07:03,650 --> 01:07:02,099
coming from non-government satellites

1501
01:07:07,789 --> 01:07:03,660
that you're aware of

1502
01:07:09,650 --> 01:07:07,799
no I'm not aware of any but uh

1503
01:07:12,890 --> 01:07:09,660
you know I think we talked about it

1504
01:07:15,230 --> 01:07:12,900
before uh definitely Christopher Mellon

1505
01:07:18,609 --> 01:07:15,240
says there are satellite photos and

1506
01:07:21,049 --> 01:07:18,619
videos that are are being concealed

1507
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,059
personally you are a fascinating guest

1508
01:07:25,730 --> 01:07:23,039
thank you for sharing your insights well

1509
01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:25,740
thank you yes sir that's uh Tim from uh

1510
01:07:32,329 --> 01:07:28,140
wrote a book called Bigfoot influencers

1511
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:32,339
and they have a podcast as well on um I

1512
01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:34,200
can't remember the name of their net the

1513
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,940
unknown radio network something like

1514
01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:37,680
that but great guy I was actually on

1515
01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:41,579
with him today uh anyway

1516
01:07:46,910 --> 01:07:44,579
um so I I want to just open up Matt did

1517
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,920
you have anything or Deb or Leah as far

1518
01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:49,200
as uh Bigfoot because apparently Darcy

1519
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:52,020
you have done Bigfoot films yeah

1520
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:55,380
yeah I I did too The Unwanted Sasquatch

1521
01:08:00,170 --> 01:07:57,839
and Sasquatch among wild men and my

1522
01:08:02,569 --> 01:08:00,180
whole thesis with that uh just to sum it

1523
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:02,579
up quickly because I had to leave soon

1524
01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:03,900
um okay we'll get we'll get you out of

1525
01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:05,940
here after this then just that there

1526
01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:07,319
might have been

1527
01:08:15,049 --> 01:08:11,160
and maybe in scarce number

1528
01:08:17,150 --> 01:08:15,059
um an upright ape that is indigenous to

1529
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:17,160
North America that lives in deep

1530
01:08:21,769 --> 01:08:18,239
wilderness

1531
01:08:24,050 --> 01:08:21,779
not a portal jumping hairy alien I'm not

1532
01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:24,060
I don't subscribe to that

1533
01:08:30,370 --> 01:08:27,060
but I interviewed Dr Jeffrey Meldrum

1534
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:30,380
who's uh Idaho State University

1535
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:33,299
professor and has the largest collection

1536
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,380
of uh prints yeah foot casts from many

1537
01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:39,359
different sightings throughout North

1538
01:08:43,789 --> 01:08:42,060
America and the world

1539
01:08:48,169 --> 01:08:43,799
um when I found out I'm like oh the

1540
01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:48,179
world what uh and I read his pamphlet on

1541
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:51,719
Relic hominids from the historical

1542
01:08:56,570 --> 01:08:53,640
record from around the world there's

1543
01:08:58,910 --> 01:08:56,580
apparently you know in China the yeren

1544
01:09:01,249 --> 01:08:58,920
which is uh something that's been

1545
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:01,259
reported being cited for hundreds of

1546
01:09:09,050 --> 01:09:04,400
years if not thousands during the Zhang

1547
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:09,060
Dynasty days the Arn is their Sasquatch

1548
01:09:13,130 --> 01:09:10,920
that lives in the sheninjia National

1549
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,140
rainforest

1550
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,839
um then you've got the yeti in the

1551
01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:17,460
Himalayas then you've got the Russian

1552
01:09:23,390 --> 01:09:20,600
almasti which they have they have the

1553
01:09:25,209 --> 01:09:23,400
caucuses which is a big mountain range

1554
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:25,219
with tons of forests

1555
01:09:30,530 --> 01:09:28,560
yep you have the yowie from Australia I

1556
01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:30,540
don't know

1557
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:34,739
um there's all kinds of these Wild Man

1558
01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:37,980
stories and uh it's kind of like a relic

1559
01:09:44,749 --> 01:09:40,440
hominid that's

1560
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:44,759
a big sort of ape creature that's smart

1561
01:09:50,570 --> 01:09:47,940
and could possibly we sometimes pass

1562
01:09:51,470 --> 01:09:50,580
like cross its path it crosses our path

1563
01:09:53,450 --> 01:09:51,480
and

1564
01:09:54,770 --> 01:09:53,460
we have these prints sometimes hair

1565
01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,780
samples

1566
01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:56,699
um and there were these interesting guys

1567
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:00,060
in Washington state

1568
01:10:05,450 --> 01:10:02,520
um that they call the Olympic project

1569
01:10:08,090 --> 01:10:05,460
their research organization and they

1570
01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:08,100
found what they have coined as Sasquatch

1571
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:12,060
nests like kind of like woven uh

1572
01:10:19,070 --> 01:10:16,560
yeah beds that would be for crashing on

1573
01:10:23,209 --> 01:10:19,080
right in the middle of their rainforest

1574
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:23,219
near uh in the Olympic rainforest and um

1575
01:10:29,090 --> 01:10:26,699
you know gorillas make a bed too

1576
01:10:31,610 --> 01:10:29,100
so it's just interesting and then you

1577
01:10:35,090 --> 01:10:31,620
know there's uh a yaren hunter that's

1578
01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:35,100
found these like woven beds in their

1579
01:10:39,950 --> 01:10:37,620
Forest too so it's like

1580
01:10:41,870 --> 01:10:39,960
I don't know it's all this data that I

1581
01:10:46,189 --> 01:10:41,880
wanted to put out there and say could it

1582
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:46,199
be but it's not I guess important uh to

1583
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:47,040
everybody

1584
01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:49,860
it it's certainly important to us we we

1585
01:10:55,149 --> 01:10:51,900
do cover Bigfoot on the show Matt has

1586
01:10:58,010 --> 01:10:55,159
had an in-person Bigfoot experience

1587
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:58,020
a couple

1588
01:11:02,810 --> 01:10:59,520
um and I was going to say regarding the

1589
01:11:04,850 --> 01:11:02,820
yowie I will tell you I I listened to a

1590
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:04,860
podcast with a guy who I would almost

1591
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:06,780
call like a professional hiker because

1592
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:09,780
he's done almost all of the Appalachian

1593
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:12,480
Trail by himself with his sons he

1594
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:14,580
vacationed in the Australian Outback and

1595
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:18,120
went 30 miles into the bush and

1596
01:11:25,070 --> 01:11:22,500
encountered a Yowie and it you know he

1597
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:25,080
was able to see it and say okay I'm

1598
01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:28,260
stopping moving I'm going to back up and

1599
01:11:32,270 --> 01:11:30,300
he almost made it all the way back to

1600
01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:32,280
his vehicle and one day he ended up

1601
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:34,380
having to crash one night but he said it

1602
01:11:39,709 --> 01:11:36,239
was very terrifying I think he peed on

1603
01:11:40,970 --> 01:11:39,719
himself wow that's cool so yeah and he

1604
01:11:42,169 --> 01:11:40,980
was I mean because you got to think if

1605
01:11:44,689 --> 01:11:42,179
you're in a foreign country you're going

1606
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,699
to go 30 miles out into the Wilderness

1607
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:46,320
you have to be excited with no partner

1608
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:48,480
yeah no partner you have to be very

1609
01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:50,580
confident in your hiking and and you're

1610
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:52,739
orienteering abilities and your survival

1611
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:55,380
abilities and he did that so cool uh

1612
01:11:58,850 --> 01:11:57,120
with that we got to get you out of here

1613
01:12:01,209 --> 01:11:58,860
so let's go with cabbie goodbye starting

1614
01:12:04,189 --> 01:12:01,219
with uh Leah please

1615
01:12:06,050 --> 01:12:04,199
Darcy thanks again for the time super

1616
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,060
excited to have this conversation very

1617
01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:08,159
impressed I think with the encyclopedic

1618
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:10,380
knowledge that you have of history and

1619
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,940
on basically every subject we've asked

1620
01:12:14,930 --> 01:12:12,960
you about

1621
01:12:16,030 --> 01:12:14,940
oh thank you appreciate that nice to

1622
01:12:18,410 --> 01:12:16,040
meet you

1623
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,420
and Matt

1624
01:12:23,209 --> 01:12:21,120
yeah Dorothy uh nice talking to you

1625
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,219
enjoyed the conversation thoroughly uh

1626
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,199
looking forward to more conversations in

1627
01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:28,320
the future and uh more of your projects

1628
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:31,320
thanks Ben thanks for finding me

1629
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:34,980
yeah we appreciate it Debs I am excited

1630
01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:37,679
to see what you get into next especially

1631
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,260
considering all the international work

1632
01:12:44,330 --> 01:12:42,239
that's happening and recent comments

1633
01:12:46,370 --> 01:12:44,340
from space force I hope that you're

1634
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:46,380
going to tackle those with the same

1635
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:48,060
amount of research with that you did

1636
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:49,980
with these previous projects it's great

1637
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,320
stuff thank you so much for talking to

1638
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:55,199
us yeah thanks Deb nice to meet you

1639
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:58,560
and finally uh uh incredible Vigor like

1640
01:13:02,270 --> 01:13:00,300
they said is kind of like what I started

1641
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,280
with is what I'll finish with I really

1642
01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:05,280
love the choices as you graduated film

1643
01:13:10,490 --> 01:13:07,500
school I assume you made incredible

1644
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:10,500
choices in topics to cover

1645
01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:12,840
um that so many of us are passionate

1646
01:13:18,110 --> 01:13:16,260
about and want to know about and ah man

1647
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,120
everybody in the chat was saying the

1648
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,159
same thing it was like man Darcy's on

1649
01:13:24,830 --> 01:13:22,080
his game you know you're so well

1650
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:24,840
researched and so we really appreciate

1651
01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:27,239
that and hopefully uh you'll come back

1652
01:13:31,310 --> 01:13:28,679
on with us again when you have another

1653
01:13:33,410 --> 01:13:31,320
project and we can get uh money Nathan

1654
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:33,420
in there all right brother cool thanks

1655
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:35,699
for having me on DJ great to meet you

1656
01:13:42,430 --> 01:13:39,120
man it is an honor so on behalf of uh

1657
01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:42,440
Debs and Nathan excuse me Debs and Matt

1658
01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:46,020
and uh Miss Leah Prime Time and Darcy

1659
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:48,659
this is DJ saying peace out one love

1660
01:13:52,850 --> 01:13:50,880
we'll see you down the road and as

1661
01:13:53,610 --> 01:13:52,860
always we're wondering what's up around

1662
01:14:01,610 --> 01:13:53,620
the bend

1663
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:01,620
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1664
01:14:18,050 --> 01:14:03,410
oh

1665
01:14:20,209 --> 01:14:18,060
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